H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. It builds up its arsenal in one location to make the world think thats the location they are going to attack. And its theseRead more . At least Ukraine is on a democratic pathway! There are thoughts elsewhere that these ships may, initially, be heading to Syria in order to collect troops and equipment for redeployment. The Ukraininans particularly will give a good account of themselves. "These aircraft posed no immediate threat to HMS Defender, but some of these manoeuvres were neither safe nor professional," Britain's Wallace said. I think it is sad that Biden never got a shot at the Presidency a decade ago. The. Not sure how I forgot to put Estonia in my answer. Agreed. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? Ukraine is not a NATO country, therefore Article 5 will not be called and NATO will not fight. F35 will be able to carry 8 of these missiles internally. The Kremlin quickly denied it was preparing a provocation. Seems a bit left-field but the Swedes seem to be taking things seriously. But the virus restrictions have meant few have been trained and tested to replace them. I meant a small number combat troops postured to help the Ukranians defend themselves. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. Thought about those beasties Johnathan if they hadnt been converted to Helicopter carriers as such and kept the Aft turrets as well nice broadside those cordites were huge, No worries. The British destroyer visited the Ukrainian port of Odessa this week, where an agreement was signed for Britain to help upgrade Ukraine's navy. 'This is extremely dangerous. If this invasion happens it could well lead to the Chinese taking the opportunity to seize Taiwan, Iran will cause trouble in the Straits of Homuz and missile man could well take the opportunity to invade the South. (apologies for the convoluted English there!). Their speed, range, persistence on station, sensors stealth and firepower make them the modern day battleships, only vastly more effective. History shows the wisdom of that comment, it was expressed by Montgomery slightly differently. If Russia invades what do they do next? The Russian ships' 'highly irregular' movements sparked Swedish authorities to deploy hundreds of troops and armoured vehicles to the island of Gotland. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. Sadly its not nonsense, the number of ships laying off shore is rising. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki warned of human rights violations and war crimes if diplomacy failed and the Russian government went ahead with its plans. It remains unclear whether tanker Karma accidentally revealed its location. So, USA has no troops in Ukraine? In such cluttered close waters, the 4.5 inch is probably the best weapon and only weapon you would need. George has a degree in Cyber Security from Glasgow Caledonian University and has a keen interest in naval and cyber security matters and has appeared on national radio and television to discuss current events. Ok we fought for repression of all subjugated Countries including the German folk who were under the heel of the Nazi jackboot. And even 2 or 3 Astute boats would give any fleet a serious headache. If the US had done this early enough the Russians would have back off. Nuclear centrifuge assembly plants. Its all well and good having such weapons, but they arent much good without good accurate targeting information. Without OHT you are randomly chucking missiles out down a bearing and hoping the target is somewhere within the seeker head basket for the terminal homing. The two Russian vessels in the video released Wednesday are the first the military has announced operating off Hawaii since the new year. A mere 3 BGs in total and designed just to reassure the people of Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. The US Coast Guard in Alaska came across Russian and Chinese vessels on an ordinary patrol earlier this month, the agency has said. Clearly I could be wrong on this. Is funny that in America when Trump was President the media said he had made a secret deal with Putin but now that Biden is President and has verbally given Putin the OK to invade Ukraine the US media says nothing but how great Biden is. The Coast Guard said the ship is . I apologize if you took offense with my tone, its not my normal voice. THey may have a go at making life uncomfortable for the US there as well. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. Like pieces on a chess board, I suppose not all of the movements need to make sense. Several missiles now fit the bill, but you still need to get round the issue of targeting information before you send it/them on their way. Estimates of the numbers of new Russian troops moved closer to Ukraine vary from 60,000 to around 100,000, with a U.S. intelligence document suggesting that number could be ramped up to 175,000. Any commander in defence now has Russian forces to the North, East, South and West; it could all get very tasty. Anti-air systems appear to be a weakness for Ukraine which might be something that the US should focusRead more . The huge explosion at the military complex of Parchin, 30 kilometers southeast Tehran. Spot on Johnathan, nothing beats the smell of Cordite when doing a spread or up ladder SU shoot. In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. Exact date yellow weather warning for snow and ice forecast to hit UK - will you be affected? Sweden has also been reinforcing its forces on the island of Gotland in case the Russians attempt anything there. But what might a Russian attack look like and what could it seek to achieve? 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Trump was an idiot and poor president. Like wise the Danse could blockade the Baltic as well. I think you have hit the nail on the head. Do you regard all the military and NHS etc senior people joining companies after they retire that they may well have helped gain orders as corruption? THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. means nothing until they are in the fleet, weve got more warships but the admiralty and the M.O.D cant see beyond their arrogance 5 more rivers given the thai navy upgrades to their batch 2 KRABI i.e a 76 otto melara rapid fire gun which was chosen ahead of the raytheon ram 116 system two extra 30mm cannon located aft of the bridge wings with the option of martlet sometime in the future otions to fit harpoon, these are real warships and we should do the same and designate them as corvettes or light frigates add 5 more warships to todays number of 19, then, 24 ships soundsRead more , reasonable place to forward base a t31 maybe. Ill also add American Democrats have a strong distaste for Putin starting roughly in early 2017 when US intelligence agencies determined Russia helped elect Trump. Test capabilities. Putin is getting old and hybrid warfare is fruitful but getting boring. The Army will undergo its most comprehensive modernisation since the 1980sIt will experiment its way to robotic and autonomous capabilities. Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? It is very obvious where they are going, staring you right into your eyes!! Germany doesnt need anything but some supply depots and rear HQs. You have to look at the bigger picture, Russia, China and the Iranians are holding joint exercises in the Indian ocean, increased naval activity in the Arctic, My biggest concern is India and Pakistan. And in the Western Military District, a missile regiment armed with S-400 Triumf mobile, surface-to-air missile system conducted electronic launches at a range in Leningrad region. Nine Royal Navy ships have completed a "concentrated operation" to shadow seven Russian warships, the British Royal Navy said Thursday, citing "unusually high levels of activity" in the English . 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They attack a completely different country miles from that one? A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. Did he deserve any sympathy? Several Squadrons of both Interceptor and Ground Attack aircraft from various NATO nations with beefed up on-ground defences and anti-aircraft units. The conclusion was that Tiger stood the better chance due to her 6 turret being mostly electrically powered rather than hydraulic, like Blakes, so the presumption was shed be more reliable. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? Etc, etc. My good friend and neighbour, an ex USN chief engineer on subs is a mildly Right of Centre Republican but even he voted for Biden in the last election. Signalling to the Russian regime that we shall not tamely acquiesce should they escalate requires conventional hard power warships and aircraft as well as less conventional capabilities like cyber. The assessment, seen by CNN, described the situation as 'difficult' and warned Russian President Vladimir Putin was 'trying to split and weaken the European Union and NATO' while also 'limiting the capabilities of the United States to ensure security on the European continent'. Kongsberg have said that the NSM will also get the receiver. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. The comments below have not been moderated, By He said Moscow could try to seize Ukrainian coastal areas on the Sea of Azov, creating a land bridge from the Russian city of Rostov through Donbass to Crimea, adding: 'That would put the Ukrainian government under a lot of pressure.'. "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. Should be a 10 year rule everything gets stored for at least 10 years in case needed. Working hard for your Master Putin, Hay! The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. Ammunition depots. He really wants to install a pro-Russian government in Kiev and to have independence for theRead more . I really dont disagree with you. Clearly they have something on him-most probably a secret video of Trump in bed with some Russian beauty! During the last 2 years lots of HGV drivers left the profession, as happens every year. Using missiles at that close a range in very crowded waters would be crazy. The Russians are on drawdown but maintaining overwatch I understand. There are plenty of other tough choices we need to make in order to solve climate change, I know but what really gets my goat, are the people who whi ge about C C then drive their kids to school, in those bloody 44 SUVs and the School is within walking distance. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been. A very rugged and reliable ship, only 500 tons carrying capacity but their operation in Syria would not have been possible without the. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. Going after the Ukraine neatly side steps the maritime flank to some extent. And the Russian surface fleet is still very much made up of 80s tech, that isnt very reliable. At the end of the day it isnt going to be Britain v Russia, It will would be a NATO coalition. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2018/02/chechen-military-police-return-syria-russia.html. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. It had been thought Mr Putin would choose the 'simple option' of sending troops into the Donbass region in south-eastern Ukraine and then negotiate for it to become an independent state, providing a buffer between pro-western Ukraine andRussia. Yeah easily mistaken for Japanese torpedo boats a few thousand miles off course. The trick is to sort the rubbish and the facts, with good journalism there is always some good Intel to be gleaned. A longer-range version would also be welcome, Ive discussed the advantages short to medium term of NSM/JSM as well as Block V Tomahawk, particularly now that both Russia and China have joint interests in the North Atlantic. 'Russia is stopped when it is stopped, not when Putin decided that he achieved enough.'. Were you not barred a couple of years ago from this site? Instead we were lured away by the glitter of ongoing wars in the ME. It just shows the Ruskis have sleepers in the German armed forces. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. The only time there is a difference, is when a SM is deep, sprinting to a new position. Ties between London and Moscow have been on ice since the 2018 poisoning with a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok of ex-double agent Sergei Skripal, a mole who betrayed hundreds of Russian agents to Britain's MI6 foreign spy service. Murdaugh is heckled as he leaves court, Two Russian tanks annihilated with bombs by Ukrainian armed forces, Ukraine soldiers shoot down enemy drones with drones of their own, Dozens stuck in car park as staff refuses to open gate for woman, Missing hiker buried under snow forces arm out to wave to helicopter, Insane moment river of rocks falls onto Malibu Canyon in CA, Fleet-footed cop chases an offender riding a scooter, Isabel Oakeshott clashes with Nick Robinson over Hancock texts. Its not as easy as it seems, accurately targeting the correct vessel in high shipping density waters. This was of course totally unrelated to his dad, then VP, having a say on loan money going into Ukraine. Putin is serious, building up a concentration of troops and armour to this level is not an excersise. Although hailing the recent 24.1 billion uplift in Defence spending as reversing a long period of decline, General Carter did not say how much of the new money will fill the existing black hole of around 10 billion in the MoDs 10-year equipment budget. the Poles keep shtum about their involvement, unlike the Balts who declare it openly. The BBC said shots were fired and that as many as 20 Russian aircraft were "buzzing" the British ship. Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. WW1 & WW2 were not just ended by fighting but the economic ability of Germany to out produce the allies. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Iran if anything will be taking the opportunity to cause issues whilst US attention is firmly off the region. Also most of that Russian buildup is into barracks so not suffering. Yes theyve probably done more to modernise than laggards such as Argentine or Germany, but in conventional terms the European members of NATO alone could militarily contain Russia without Americas help. The reason they were happy to get rid was cost. We in the West lost sight of the long term strategic goal of the US is remaining the sole superpowewr. Putin has huge domestic discontent for which the Ukraine crisis is a distraction. The seven Russian ships - two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships - were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. 'Our view is this is an extremely dangerous situation,' said White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk, Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk regions. Douglas you are as delusional as can be in your explanation (Bidens fault) for why this is happening. When we need European Allies like France and Germany, where are they. I think ill have a drink now. Yes, its certainly a complex situation, aided no doubt by a perceived weakness of the US, which is currently very poorly led and has been for several years. Build the strongest argument relying on authoritative content, attorney-editor expertise, and industry defining technology. Also Congress now has the Trump White House documents related to Jan 6. Still better than a 4.5 gun. Which could be read either way. HMS Dragon, though reportedly armed with Harpoon, is being put in harms way without a modern AShM. AnyRead more , Once again I must say that your assessment is spot on. To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. Surface vessels Anti ship missiles are effectively back up. The Americans have just sent their first shipment of Aid to the Ukraine what was sent was classed as LETHAL Aid. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken today warnedRussia could attack Ukraine on 'very short notice'during a meeting with UkrainianPresident Volodymyr Zelensky at the American embassy in Kiev. EFP is irrelevant to the Russo-Ukraine situation. True , I seem to remember one the OSINT Bunker pod cast guys saying if they start to move Air assets near the Ukraine border than probably the war is on , they have just done that. 'Grateful for [US's] political & security support. Wallace should put his bloody foot down, overule objections and get an off the shelf system fitted PDQ. Russia is flexing its muscles in Britains back yard after ten warships arrived off the UK coast, the Chief of the Defence Staff has warned. I wonder if we could see a real boost in our defence budget? Try it too often, find work elsewhere. That was not my point: NATO has antied up and put boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight. The NATO Allied Maritime Command is "closely monitoring" Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov, it said in a tweet with a photo of the warship. At this distance we could also send a cutting out party/borders Im sure! They took over from @kon_marine and will pass onto the @MarineNationale to continue the escort. The big question is-could this conflict once started, and if NATO do get involved, be limited to a conventional battle? US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. 'The different scenarios for how exactly Russia might seek to persuade the West to meet its (security) demands by punishing Kyiv don't even necessarily include a land incursion,' he said. Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. Er, US forces are in Poland and no doubt in the Ukraine. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. "The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. Warships belonging to the Russian Northern Fleet have sailed through the English Channel in a routine and lawful passage through British waters. And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. And hand wash Plane Cleaning popping up everywhere? https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. Will it would be nice not to hear from that stroppy self-important brat anymore, I doubt your proposal will solve either of the threats we face; Russian aggression and climate-climate. Britain seems to be the only Western power doing anything regarding the imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine. I have little doubt that corruption in Russia has led to some pretty shoddy construction. The only delusional people are the idiots who think Biden is doing a good job; hes lost Afghanistan, Ukraine next, and probably Taiwan in 2023 when this emboldensRead more . The assessment put the number of rebels within Ukraine who are loyal to Moscow at 35,000 and estimated Russia has a further 3,000 military personnel within Kiev's territory. Russia's warns Britain over navy confrontation, Raab: Russia being 'predictably inaccurate', Britain says it will always defend seafaring rights, Russia says London is sowing barefaced lies. Any toys the RN requires would magical appear on the Quay side, and the funds suddenly available. View our online Press Pack. Please review our, You need to be a subscriber to join the conversation. Leading to our militaries being optimised for fighting second rate foes. Thanks to covid and the forthcoming energy crisis the cupboard is bare. Thomas C. D'Arcy, encountered a formation of seven Chinese and Russian warships in the Bering Sea last month. NSM in clear sea lanes, is perfectly suited to keeping enemy at arms length. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. These vessels are more than likely head to Syria to onload stores. They hit targets of a 'simulated enemy' in 'large-scale' exercises involving 500 military personnel. 'We have information that indicates Russia has already pre-positioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern Ukraine,' she said. Thanks for that. You can unsubscribe at any time. Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. The deployment was cited in Ukraine's intelligence report which said Belarus 'should be considered as a full-fledged theater of operations that Russia can use to expand aggression against Ukraine.'. As its a shed load easier to detect an RF emission and from a lot further away with a highly sensitive receiver. This was at the request of the Australian Government. No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. On the face of it, Trumps position on the Right of the political spectrum, should have placed him as a hard opponent of the Russians but he was like a contrite schoolboy sitting next to Putin. But then we are talking about a Govt that is all style (and what style that is these days judging by the No.10 makeover) over remote substance and my do those Type 45s look smart and mean when they are out on the water especially when they have a dragon on the bow though Boris would probably add flock wallpaper as camaflage. It was purely a theoretical consideration . The . Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. It requires us to hold their backyard at risk, whether thats in the Barents Sea, the High North, the Baltic or the Black Sea.. Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. Britain said the shots were part of a Russian gunnery exercise. We will see who is right in a month or two. And I know the USA seems to have more fruit-cakes that believe these. Ill accept naval power but always is a bit sweeping. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been closely monitored by Nato navies on its maiden voyage armed with 6,670mph Zircon weapons. NATO Aid to the Ukraine is not some knee jerk reaction to current events,there have been initiatives underway since independence in 1991,and especially since 2014,in the case of the UK under Operation Orbital. I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. Commander Ed Moss-Ward, HMS Portland's commanding officer, said: "Escorting warships in UK territorial waters and the adjacent sea areas is routine activity for the Royal Navy. The only ones being childish are the politicians, the oil industry and those that choose to ignore reality. 'He emphasized the United States unwavering commitment to Ukraines sovereignty and territorial integrity and reiterated the principle of nothing about Ukraine, without Ukraine.'. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. We use your sign-up to provide content in ways you've consented to and to improve our understanding of you. 36 minutes ago. Biden-BIG disappointment. You talking Cobbers as usual! The official warned the Kremlin: 'Our message, and that of our allies and partners, is that Russia has two choices: diplomacy and de-escalation, or escalation and massive consequences. he said. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. We all have opinions and may not always agree but nice to keep things civilised. Too many journalists sit at their desks googling news instead of getting off their backsides. Biden is shaping up to be just as bad and hopefully another 1-term wonder. Is not the opposite more true? And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. By Morning Douglas. The task group were joined by RAF Typhoon and F-35s jets, plus tankers RFA Tideforce and RFA Tiderace. So many completely underestimate the complexity and difficulties of achieving the kill chain with Anti ship missiles. No unvaccinated driver may cross the border and there are 10,000s of them. You must have access to a higher level of intel than me then. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. It is a show of force and plans for a possible invasion. production rates are a worry. Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! The phrase, and derivatives of the phrase . It looks like a scene from 1984. In comments that will alarm Kiev, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said her country needs 'a reliable Russia' to supply Europe with gas. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. A Slava Class cruiser isnt going to be worried by any Wildcat, whilst ROEs mean that by the time Astutes have surfaced to receive comms the shooting has started and finished. Agree, that is the most likely route. 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