But it also says that Esau will serve his brother which hasnt happened yet. 4:25). They are the most despised people of the earth, persecuted, ridiculed, rejected whom almost all nations have abused. I believe and know that YAHAWSHI is coming for his house in the last days but most Israelite camps today teach edom has no shot. CHAPTER VERSE Hebrews 12:17 "For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears." King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > View Chapter Hebrews 12:17 Context ); Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people. There is a natural break between the first two chapters of Deuteronomy, because Moses skips 38 years of history. The Edomites first established a biblical kingdom ("Edom") in the southern area of modern Jordan, and later migrated into southern parts of the Kingdom of Judah ("Idumea", or modern southern Israel/Negev) when Judah was first weakened, then destroyed by the Babylonians in the 6th century BC. Their hatred of Israel was kind of ironic, because the Edomites were descended from Esau, the brother of Jacob, who later became Israel. We are not talking about an albino twin, but according to the theory, Esau was . 3 years ago. Please watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TcP74Hsbhg. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. Then the Lord describes how thorough her destruction will be. Interested in joining the Ligonier team? 4:26, 31), and this makes us the true inheritors of the Kingdom. On the East of the `Arabah the northern border ran from the Dead Sea, and was marked by Wady el-Kurachi, or Wady el-Chasa. on the same path as Esau. "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways. All Rights Reserved. 14:5 ). KJV, YLT, DARBY, ASV Verse Concepts Judg 21:6 Tools And the sons of Israel repent concerning Benjamin their brother, and say, 'There hath been to-day cut off one tribe from Israel, YLT Verse Concepts If Jacob had not pretended to be Esau, Esau would not be pretending to be Jacob today. GMSsober Yahsharahla. This is the fulfillment of verse 1 where God sends out a report to summon the nations against Edom. You've been thinking one way, but now you think the opposite way. All of our resources exist to guide you toward everlasting joy in Jesus Christ. We looked at two of them: the people of Ninevah in the story of Jonah and Rahab the Harlot from Jericho. Exo 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn (Israelite), and unto the stranger (Gentile) that sojourneth among (clings to) you. But his covenant membership was no guarantee that he would find salvation. 2 And the Lord spoke to me, saying, 3 You have circled this mountain long enough. And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith YAHUAH Elohiym. The others who rejected Him were the evil figs of the same prophecy and are identified with the fruitless fig tree that Jesus cursed in Matthew 21:19. And dont forget, you can easily be cut off again. Their capital was Bozrah, which sat in the northern part of their territory. First, God rules in this world right now and turns the course of nations and history as he pleases. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. WHO WILL BE SAVED? I dont remember saying salvation is only for Israel. Psalm 32 is a wonderful place to explore the nature and process of deep repentance. Yet in the end, the prophecy that the older will serve the younger (Gen. 25:23) would be fulfilled. That should be hard for Gentiles who many are on top at the moment, as pride will make it tough for them to humble themselves to these despised people. All praises to the Most High, and His blessings on you for removing the stumbling blocks that keep us from approaching to receive our part of His righteous judgement. The people of God is not to be limited to the Jewish remnant but now reaches out to embrace all those who trust Christ. PART 2: THE GENTILE SALVATION In my previous post, I looked at the fact that the Messiah did not come for the whole world, but does that mean Gentiles are excluded from salvation? For the violence done to your brother, Jacob (that is, to the people of Israel), shame shall cover you, and you shall be cut off for ever. Nations, adults, and little children have this in common: apart from the grace of God we all tend to derive pleasure from another person's failure. who are truly red and hairy whyte pepoe who are red and hairy even if they shaved or if they have alopecia or if they can tan in the sun, they are still an edomite people . True. Obadiah's backstory There came a day when Esau found no chance to repent because he was sorry only for the consequences of sin and not for the sin itself (Heb. In a nutshell, they say Edom could not be the whiteman if David . Obadiah and his people knew that their own distress and calamity were deserved. So Gentiles trying to undermine Israels salvation by saying it does not matter who you are? After reminding Israel of the failure of their first attempt to enter the Promised Land, he immediately jumps ahead to speak oftheir second entry. But Edom should have seen God's judgment on Judah and trembled. The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble; they shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor to the house of Esau; for the Lord has spoken. So the second part of the book holds out the hope of salvation to the remnant of Israel, and promises that in the end the kingdom will not belong to the Babylonians nor to the Edomites but to the Lord. They are not the primary concern of the Most High. Programa: Just a Word. If even the Edomites turn and repent, cleave to his people, sojourn among them, leave their old evil ways, are truly grafted in among them, then they shall be built among his people. Galatians 3:29: And if ye be Christs, then are ye Abrahams seed, and heirs according to the promise. It was common in those days to treat other nations as if they had no right to exist. It soothes our inadequacies and magnifies our successes. Your email address will not be published. 1.Pride - I am wealthy , intelligent . Please forgive me for sending so many messages. . 29:56. The person who yields to the temptation of pride surrenders his capacity to think and feel and act without deception. 1. to feel regretful or contrite for past conduct: to repent of an act. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. Verses 8 and 9: "Will I not on that day, says the Lord, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of Mount Esau. How Esau has been pillaged, his treasures sought out!" But Israel was told to buy their food and water as they passed through Edom. For what matters is not so much the timing of the judgment, but that justice is going to be achieved: the violent nation will not boast forever. Obviously, the Edomites hated the Israelites. Shalom,I believe I am of Esau and I have a question. There are many today who hate Jewsand Zionists in particularon the grounds that they are Edomites. . Saviors shall go up to Mount Zion to rule Mount Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's. That is why you have to hold on to Israels covenants. Read the passages that deal with repenting but also read more fully of the text, to help God's word enter into your heart and give your guidance. In Hebrews 6:48, we observed that it is possible to be in the covenant community and receive many of Gods blessings without having true faith. Can an edomite repent? Why? Why did God judge Edom so harshly in the book of Obadiah? Israelites were to be careful not to provoke Edom, but to treat them with justice. Surrounded by deep ravines amid the rugged highlands of southern Jordan, the steep-sided "rock" of es-Sela may be where King Amaziah of Judah slaughtered 10,000 Edomites.. But God called them " your brothers the sons of Esau ." God forbid. Can edomites. Jer 12:14Thus saith YAHUAH against all mine evil neighbours, that touch the inheritance which I have caused my people Israel to inherit; Behold, I will pluck them out of their land, and pluck out the house of Judah from among them. He allowed the white mayenne they eat mites to rise and take over the Earth.He allowed them to steal the negros identity so that we would be pushed to jealousy And return Back to the father. And Jesus said, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth" (Matthew 5:5). On the other hand, I recognize that it was Jacob's lack of faith in Genesis 27 that has brought about the present situation. We have no choice but to go the long way around Edom to the Promised Land. .. As an adult, Esau rashly sold his inheritance to Jacob for a bowl . You have to hold onto his Sabbaths and his covenantswhich means you HAVE TO KEEP HIS LAW! The Bible does not give us a clear indication of when they went from family to foe, but clearly, they were enemies of Israel. They are described as hairy and ugly, and some teachings of BHI believe that Edomites will become slaves in heaven. Im still amazed that we Edomites have a chance at all (also, please forgive my profile picture, I changed it on my google account but it doesnt show that I have my head covered now, this picture is shameful to me now). Only the names of the 12 tribes of Israel are on the 12 gates of heaven in Revelation 21:12. Can Edomites Repent??? Note: If you'd like to continue shopping, you can always access your cart from the icon at the upper-right of every page. Isa 56:6 Isa 56:7 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHUAH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHUAH, to be his servants, every one that KEEPETH THE SABBATH from polluting it, and TAKETH HOLD OF MY COVENANT (law done away with? Of course, Edom refers to Esau, so Edomites are the descendants of Esau. The prophecy was delivered after the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC and has two main parts. For there is no difference; Romans 3:22. Genesis 25 notes that these twin brothers wrestled in the womb and that the older (Esau) would serve the younger: "Two nations are in your womb . The case of mistaken identity in Genesis 27 is being repeated inversely today in order that God might do justice to Esau. ), as virtually all historians know. In the womb, Esau and Jacob struggled together, and God told their mother, Rebekah, that they would become two nations, with the older one serving the younger ( Genesis 25:23 ). You should not have stood at the parting of the ways to cut off his fugitives; you should not have delivered up his survivors in the day of distress. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.Romans 9:11-15. People Are Reading Now. I am an Edomite woman as well and want to do everything I can to follow Yahuah and his laws and commandments in repentance. If this city is just an uninhabited archaeological dig and an uninhabited vacant place does this mean that the Holy Spirit's mention of Bozrah in relation to the returning Messiah is also dead? Those who have fled from the wickedness of pride to the holiness of humility will find refuge on the day of the Lord. The promises made long ago to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, that they and their descendants would possess the land, will not be frustrated. He is author of. Mat 15:22 Mat 15:28 And, behold, a woman of Canaan (Gentile) came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Master, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. Zechariah 8:23 Thus saith YAHUAH of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that Aluah is with you. In many places, the author of Hebrews uses the Old Testament to warn us about remaining faithful. Therefore now, O YAHUAH, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live. Joel 2:13And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto YAHUAH your Elohiym: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. And Adah bore to Esau, Eliphaz; Basemath bore Reuel; and Oholibamah bore Jeush, Jalam, and Korah. Let's suppose a man wants to learn how to parachute. The main point of the prophecy seems to be that God's oppressed people should take courage because God is still the righteous Master of the universe: wrongs will be righted through judgment, and the Judge of all the earth shall rule openly someday with all his people in safety forever. And like all the other provinces, it will be freely shared with people from every tongue and tribe and nation who have accepted Jesus as Savior and submitted to him as King. Yea, to him shall all of the proud of the earth bow down; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust." If grape gatherers came to you, would they not leave gleanings? I live with an Israelite who says that we Edomites have no hope, and I love Yahuah so much and I love the Israelites so much that I even serve my daughter, who is of the tribe of Benjamin because her fathers father was from Jamaica. Jon 4:1 Jon 4:3But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. But God is not impressed or threatened: he will cut them off in their pride, wise and powerful together. Israel was told to be very careful not to provoke the Edomites on the grounds that they were your brothers the sons of Esau. The feud between the two brothers ran deep, and any small incident could spark a war. In other words, Jacob would have to give back the Birthright to Esau in order to allow Esau time to prove himself unworthy as a hated son. The law protected hated sons from being disinherited without cause (Deut. God created everyone we are all his creations and he loves creations. Aluah forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them (Israel) to jealousy. Please someone answer this. I guess my hope is like Rahab. As Psalm 22:28, 29 says, "The kingdom belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations. Im thinking not, because in Song of Solomon 1:11 it says We will make thee borders of gold with studs of silver. What are Edomites supposed to be wearing? Esau is an example of one who was a member of the church visible but not the church invisible. Read on Mobile. Were on a mission to change that. If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them. In 1948 the Jewish Zionists fulfilled Isaacs prophecy to Esau-Edom when the Birthright and Dominion Mandate were returned to them after thousands of years. (OBADIAH) 1:10. The near future and the distant future merge in the prophet's vision. Holman Old Testament Commentary: Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah by Trent Butler. Its fate is to be cut down (Luke 3:8-9; 13:6-9). N otice two (of three) square free-standing tombs on the right. repent: [verb] to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life. e'-dum, e'-dum-its 'edhom, "red"; Edom: 1. Paul says in Romans 4:13 that the descendants of Abraham will inherit the world, not just a near eastern territory of Palestine. In this part 2, we look at the extreme opposite of that by looking at the question: can Edomites be saved? However, as we shall see, the salvation of the Gentiles is an incidental salvation and is contingent on the salvation of Israel. Then we will ask what lessons are here for our life as Christians. In one of the Old Testament's colder and more brutal episodes, King Amaziah of Judah (c. 801-783 B.C.E. He was blessed to be a part of the covenant because he was a descendant of Abraham. That is, it had a show of righteousness, but did not bear the fruit that God required in the three-year time of visitation. . While I certainly object to the Zionists' treatment of the Palestinian people, my objection is based upon their violation of the law and the fact that the Zionists do not act in accordance with thelove of Christ. "Behold, I will make you small among the nations, you shall be utterly despised. Yet knowing their identity as Edomites is the reason NOT to hate them, according to the divine law. Esau was the twin brother of Jacob, the father of 12 sons who became the 12 tribes of Israel. Even this morning (not long ago) he revealed to me in a dream, the tribe of one of my former employees. 7 Days. 3 groups: Esau, Japhet, unknown ancient. for you are all one in Christ Jesus. The word Edom in Hebrew means "red.". Because it speaks that Edom refused. In verse 17, the warnings based on Esaus lack of faith continue when we are warned that like Esau, we can be rejected by God and find no chance to repent. Hebrews Israelites breakdown the Bible. This mountainous region, situated in modern . So your the Gentile salvation is incidental and dependent on the salvation of Israel. Fourth, therefore proud nations and proud individuals will reap what they sow. Salvation is only for Israel. The Edomites were descended from Esau who is the brother of Jacob and son of Isaac. We don't know anything about the author's background. The Amalekite genocide John Allister | 12 August, 2013 One of the standard ways that the New Atheists attack Christianity is by using some of the Old Testament war passages to argue that God is violent and petty. So Mr Gentile, your salvation is not of your own. 1:6 we find that this word actually came while they were camping at Mount Horeb, telling them to return to Kadesh. We need to come to recognize that God's mind and thoughts are truly higher (and better) than ours. Daniel's detailed prayer can be divided into two portions. Jon 3:4 Jon 3:10And Jonah began to enter into the city a days journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.So the people of Nineveh believed Elohiym, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. And he will not be our refuge or our righteousness in that day. Revelation says that even in the Kingdom Satan will be loosed for a time and that the nations will war against Israel. He is the dad of Israel and none else our praises to the true & living GOD & we shall never be ashamed. I viewed some congregations teaching that King David Was RUDDY which means RED because it is the same Hebrew word used to describe Esau/Edom being red. To the wordThis is explained by one incident. We have sinned and strayed away from God and now he has made a way for all people to come back to him. The judgment of the Edomites is a reminder that God stands opposed to all forms of human arrogance and pride. The 2020 Tabernacles Conference is finished! Luke 15:10Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of Elohiym over one sinner that repenteth. 6 You shall buy food from them with money so that you may eat, and you shall also purchase water from them with money so that you may drink. Five Lessons Teman was a grandson of Esau and a chief city in Edomevidently a cultural and military center where the intellectual and military elite gathered. When a person is in the bondage of pride, he takes whatever opportunity he can to exalt himself over others. However, God then redirected them to the Jordan River, telling them to enter from an entirely different direction. As Christians, we are the children of Sarah, not Hagar (Gal. The Nation of Esau, (Edom) is alive and well today. 19:11). A commentary on the first speech of Moses in Deuteronomy 1-4. International Standard Bible Encyclopedia. We are only able to do what we do because of your support. So be very careful; 5do not provoke them, for I will not give you any of their land, even as little as a footstep because I have given Mount Seir to Esau as a possession'.. No Chance to Repent | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org John Owen tells us that Esau is a clear example of the truth that "no one knows where deliberate sin may lead." Unrepentant, deliberate sin should cause us to q Pride is based on a lie. 2. to be penitent for one's sins and seek to change one's life for the better. The first step to true repentance is changing how we think. No Christian should have the jitters that the world is careening out of control toward a meaningless catastrophe. Moses leaves out quite a few details in this speech. Indeed, Gentiles are actually used to provoke Israel to jealousy (even their salvation is used to benefit Israel). Of course, Edom refers to Esau, so Edomites are the descendants of Esau.</p><p>In part 1, we looked at the question of whether it will be Israelites alone (the physical descendants of Jacob) who will be saved.</p><p>CAN EDOMITES BE SAVED?<br>Ask this . (By the way, if you change your mind about what you are doing, your actions will follow.) We begin now with the second chapter of Deuteronomy, which continues Moses first speech. Im just amazed that we even have a chance of hope (though I know this doesnt wipe out that we will serve Israel, and our tribe deserves it for all weve done and (as a nation) are still oppressors. Obadiah's message begins with the condemnation of Edom, which was the nation that descended from Esau. God will respect Esaus rights and will grant him justice for what Jacob did to him many years ago. That fruitless fig tree had many leaves but no fruit. Your salvation is not primary Mr Gentile, it is incidental. Hi Libby I just saw your post. Report. Can we really imagine that God would establish his own final kingdom in such a way that he would only rule over a portion of the earth? We ought to adopt God's attitude toward Edom, rather than to return hatred for hatred. Those of the Negeb shall possess Mount Esau, and those of the Shephelah the land of the Philistines; they shall possess the land of Ephraim and the land of Samaria and Benjamin shall possess Gilead. As the Hebrews wandered throughout the Sinai Desert on their way to what would become their home in Canaan, they had to pass through Edom. I ask so can edomite be saved? Canal: Just a Word. Ive been struggling so much. On the day that you stood aloof, on the day that strangers carried off his wealth, and foreigners entered his gates, and cast lots for Jerusalem, you were like one of them. Isaiah is the most referenced Old Testament book in the New Testament, with approximately 100 citations and 500 allusions. Pride makes us think we are independent, self-sufficient, invulnerable. Now turn north. Matthew 9:10-13; Luke 13:3; Ezekiel 18:30 (repent or perish) Alma 7:21 (no unclean thing can dwell in God's presence) He came for his people, but you get a bligh. Servants though they will be (Amos 9:11-12), they still will be among his people in the kingdom! Our main rival today is Edom (Zionism), although Ishmael (Islam) is also asserting himself as a contender for the inheritance. And the house of Jacob shall possess their own possessions. If you are engaging in such sin, repent today and trust Christ alone to save you. The book of Lamentations is a series of five separate laments over the fall of Jerusalem to the __________. We may feel like people tossed around in an old stagecoach pulled by six wild horses, but fear not, God sits serenely over our heads, and the hands that made the world hold the reins. You can view the recordings by clicking this banner. And that warning is "Wake up and repent before it's too late". Thank you. 30 Days. In part 1 of our Who Will Be Saved? series, we looked at the question of whether it will be Israelites alone (the physical descendants of Jacob) who will be saved. To repent is to admit that you are guilty, to show sincere regret. Edomites. 2:4-7. Even though the prophet addressed the Edomites, who were descendants of Esau, the twin brother of Jacob, he had a message . 12:17). 2:29). Shalum Glynn. Notice, there is a condition for being accepted. For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. In the twentieth century, a new political movement arose called Zionism. How happy is the man the LORD does not charge with sin, and in whose spirit is no deceit! Repentant, Christ-honoring Israel will have her land, but it will be only one little province in the world-wide kingdom of the Lord.
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