You really are shook that there is one person here that will stand up to your juvenile bullying and Gish Gallup style arguments. Ranking College Baseball's Potential Strikeout Leaders Gerrit Cole leads the list, with Corbin Burnes, Jacob DeGrom, and Carlos Rodon closely following the Yankees ace. Has 31.9rWAR in 9 years, starting at age 27. Did you know that eight of the top ten single season strikeout records all occurred during the nineteen century? Because you got me looking at it, if you order their seasons by wRC+ over 130 (ignoring their 2020 MVP years) between Abreu and Freeman it goes. Web2021 Major League Baseball Batting Leaders | Baseball-Reference.com. MLB The highest-ranked freshman on the BA 500 to make it to campus, Montgomery has a fastball that has been as high as 96 mph and a slider that was one of the best in the 2020 prep class. Chois formula for success is quite simple, as he hits the ball hard and in the air. Logos were compiled by the amazing SportsLogos.net. It would be about whether its fair to completely discount his insane run from 20-25 (and especially 22-24) solely because his birthplace denied him the opportunity to compete in the majors. That, when applied to what I believe is a fair evaluation for foreign players who come to the U.S. at advanced ages, puts him squarely behind even a large hall standard. His bat was mediocre, his power was lacking, his baserunning was poor, and his defense was lousy in other words, his toolbox was empty. WebSingle-Season Leaders & Records for Strikeouts | Baseball-Reference.com Single-Season Leaders & Records for Strikeouts Create your own custom leaderboards Become a In other words, he was making more contact on less hittable pitches. Team Korea has two young left-handed hitters who will line up in the middle of the order for the WBC. 2023 MLB Player Hitting Stats | MLB.com Yet the problem was more localized than that. He took a lot of criticism for how he reacted to Koreas disappointing fourth- place finish in the Tokyo Olympics, though he did hit .308 with a double and 4 RBI over the tournament. On groundballs and line drives, Gurriel was perfectly fine. Byung-ho Park is one of the few names you might know. Clemson snapped its four-game losing streak with a win Friday against previously undefeated South Carolina. MLB He likely would have battled Hye-seong Kim for a starting role on Team Korea had Tommy Edman not joined the team for the WBC. His peak would have had to have been one of the best of all time to get him to even 50 WAR. On the other hand, due to injury, he has only pitched in three games since the end of that season. At the plate, Rutschmans batting eye is extremely sharp, as evidenced by his 13.8% walk rate and 18.3% strikeout rate. Baseball Its kinda funny that theres really only been one case where this rule couldve applied, which was with Ichiro, but he just went ahead and had a hall-worthy career without even having to make that consideration. 1. He produced a SLG above .500 in each season since 2010 and from 2010-2021 he had an OPS of .900 or better every year, falling just below that benchmark in 2022 (.891). - Strikeouts Leader (1933-1934 & 1937) / Hall of Famer Lefty Gomez. Therefore, not only did Gurriels walk rate plummet, but his quality of contact worsened thanks to his poor approach at the plate. For example, his 2010-11 translated to .358/.468/.754. The Alabama lefthander was a big catalyst behind the Crimson Tides scalding-hot start to the season. , though he did hit .308 with a double and 4 RBI over the tournament. SHIPPENSBURG, Pa. The Shippensburg University baseball team opened a non-conference doubleheader with a win against Slippery Rock on Sunday, 3-2, before dropping Game 2, 6-4, at Fairchild Field. Nolan Ryan holds the Major League record for career strikeouts (click the link to see the top one-hundred) with five-thousand seven-hundred fourteen and with a hundred twenty-five plus years he still remains the only pitcher in history with more than five-thousand career strikeouts. ), without the adjustment period from the Cuban leagues. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? His work has also been featured at Baseball Prospectus, Pitcher List, and SB Nation. WebCheck out the Spring 2023 GIAA AAAA Boys Baseball Batting Average stat leaders, including stats for Plate Appearances, Hits, At Bats, Doubles, Triples, Home Runs, and Games Played Im really talking about that that 26-30 run where he had a .250 ISO, racking up 8 more WAR in 80 fewer games than he had from 21-25. Major League and Minor League Baseball data provided by Major League Baseball. I also suggested that, due to what we know about aging curves, his best years mightve been mostly behind him when he arrived. Na also dealt with a gruesome injury in 2019, and his mobility has suffered since returning. 8.10. I clicked on this because I was wondering what on earth Gurriel could do that would stimulate this much conversation, and it turns out my skepticism is well founded. The righthander might have had the best abbreviated season of anyone in 2020, as he put up a 0.32 ERA and .128 opponent batting average with 47 strikeouts and only three walks in 28 innings. Oh, taking the piss out of jackasses who seem genuinely incapable of engaging with information that doesnt align with their pre-existing assumptions is how I destress! 2.78. He stepped right into the Bigs at 27 and was immediately one of the best hitters in baseball. 2 hitter Brayden Jobert (.450), No. 12 UCLA past Sacramento State, 3-2, on Or because juicing Matsuis NPB stats to match the delta that Abreu saw moving from the CNS would still leave his 19-28 numbers drastically worse than Abreus? He is also the creator of the baseballr package for the R programming language. as well as the sharp increase in strikeout rates starting around the 1992 season. Kumar Rocker, RHP, Vanderbilt. Early returns are good, as he struck out 26 in 19.1 innings as a freshman in 2020. But if I were, it sure would be hard for me to grant so much semi-imaginary credit to a player especially when his comparisons when he did eventually come to MLB were not as impressive. In the National League it was 62 times, set in 1968, by Jerry Koosman of the New York Mets. 12 UCLA past Sacramento State, 3-2, on Saturday afternoon at Jackie Robinson Stadium as part of the 2023 Southern California College Baseball Classic. Yes, home run rates have certainly increased. Data Provided By In his free time, he writes for The Hardball Times, speaks about baseball research and analytics, has consulted for a Major League Baseball team, and has appeared on MLB Network's Clubhouse Confidential as well as several MLB-produced documentaries. Maybe someday we will get a better sense of how to translate Korean or Cuban stats but we arent there yet. Rodon trails only two pitchers who haven't yet appeared on this list in terms of WAR among all pitchers. Someday, hell earn a plaque in the Astros Hall of Fame. I then included the strikeout, walk, and home run rates for each season as well to see if they helped explain the trends we see. So, conservatively, he would be Freddie Freeman, except for the whole thing where Freeman has been much better from age 27 onward. SB:Belbin, Jarrod1; Halstead, Tyler1; Howard, Payton1; Harrill, Lawson1 Louisiana BATTING: 2B:Kyle DeBarge 1; Julian Brock 1 RBI:Heath Hood 1; Mason Zambo 2; Trey LaFleur 1; Luke Yuhasz 1; Lee Amedee 1 SF:Trey LaFleur 1 BASERUNNING: RUNS:Kyle DeBarge 1; Carson Roccaforte 1; Heath Hood 2; Julian Brock 1; Luke Yuhasz 1 "I'm not worried about them (the strikeouts). MLB dark horse MVP candidates for 2023 Its most certainly conjecture, but its not beyond the realm of possibility, and to say he has no case goes too far, imo. If you use Abreus own, it comes to a 1.029 OPS, over those 5 years. It's an excellent strikeout pitch and batters hit just .213 against it. The question kind of becomes why Abreu never got close to his 2014 production (outside of 2020) again. I wish there were a member benefit that let you ignore morons like you. 1. MLB Last years champion in the abbreviated season was East Tennessee States Landon Knack, who was drafted in the second round by the Dodgers. LOS ANGELES Sophomore second baseman Duce Gourson went 3-4 with a homer and a pair of RBIs to lead No. He was an important cultural figure in the annals of Cuban players coming stateside but thats a hard sell. 2021 Minor League Baseball Stat Leaders, Champions & More Hamilton took to Division I baseball well in 2020 after transferring from the junior college ranks, striking out 33 batters in 19.1 innings for a resurgent Wichita State team. Was it because MLB pitchers got a better scouting report on him and were able to better exploit his weaknesses and turn him from a great hitter to merely a very good hitter, or was it because his peak was over by age 28 and the rest of his career was his decline phase? In 584 PA, he was worth -0.9 WAR, the lowest figure among qualified hitters. Perhaps he should have taken the guaranteed cash when it was still on the table. Camels take series over Louisiana - Campbell University Counting them is much harder and requires more guesswork, of course. Batting 2B:SAFFORD, Will 1 HR:DROST, Brody 1 RBI:DROST, Brody 3; DAVIS, Dalton 1; SAFFORD, Will 2 BASERUNNING: RUNS:DROST, Brody 1; CORONA, Jorge 1; MYERS, Adarius 1; SAFFORD, Will 1; MCLEOD, Logan 2 HBP:CORONA, Jorge 1 Ole Miss BATTING: 2B:Lege, Ethan1 3B:Groff, Ethan1 RBI:Groff, Ethan2; Harris, Calvin1; Calarco, Anthony1; Torras stuff isnt as big as some of his counterparts on this list, but he has a long track record of success, both at UCSB and in junior college. How about pitchers from you favorite team have they ever led the league in strikeouts? Semien TOR. Cusick struck out 43 batters in 22.1 innings in 2020 and only improved his stock as a potential strikeout king with his performance over the summer, when he struck out 40 in 23.1 innings in the Coastal Plain League thanks to a fastball that was up to 96 mph and a slider thats above average at its best. Lee is the best pure hitter in the KBO, with a career batting average of .342 and more career walks than strikeouts. The result has always been a high contact rate but an equally low walk rate. And of course McGriff had his top 3 seasons by WAR in 88-90 (in MLB) and also had more WAR post-35 than Abreu is likely to achieve. The fact that the Astros, who have for years stuck with him through his ups and downs, have moved on is probably the biggest indictment of where hes at right now. SF. I agree we shouldnt use his Cuban #s, but, the supposition about what if he came over at age 20, IS interesting. Yep its really annoying that this bloody weirdo has me arguing against Freddies awesomeness. As for Abreu, the 20 WAR from ages 21-26 would pretty much just be him playing at his age 28-35 (so excluding his big rookie year) level. If it could be shown that a player really was likely one of the very best, based on how they played in the US compared to players only looking at the same ages, I think that should be a factor in HOF close calls. To me, Abreus case looks very strong, as he racked up 433 HR despite many of his prime seasons in Cuba lasting only 90 games. Must have done nightmares for the aul self-esteem. Yuli Gurriel has played professional baseball around the world, suiting up in Cuba and Japan before making his way to MLB. Sat, Mar 11 2 p.m. He was by no means a lock as a HOF case, but he made it in. Note: A bold faced entry denotes that the player was active during the previous Major League season. RP Joe Mantiply, ARI (2.5 BB%) Devin Wiles. On groundballs and line drives, his average EV and HardHit% were both close to his career averages. If we have a good faith basis to believe that Yuli Gurriel and Jos Abreu didnt suddenly become awesome baseball players the minute they were able to play in the US, why should the performances that pre-date their debuts here be summarily ignored when bestowing baseballs highest honor? Primarily a second baseman with Kiwoom, he was the double play partner of Ha-seong Kim before he joined the Padres. Throws: Unknown, School: Cedarville University (Cedarville, OH), More Caden McKinion Pages at Baseball Reference, Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Saturday, March 4, 12:52AM. [8] Farm system [ edit] [9] Notes [ edit] ^ Hank Sauer at Baseball-Reference ^ Manny Mota at Baseball-Reference ^ Hoyt Wilhelm at Baseball-Reference ^ Bill Sarni at Baseball-Reference ^ John Orsino at Baseball-Reference ^ Ray Katt at Baseball-Reference Who will be 2021s strikeout king? The possibility of losing the MVP seemingly has to outweigh any additional WAR from a resume standpoint. Ultimately we will never know the answer, but it is fun to speculate. Even if his ROS performance was equivalent to 2021, the extra 1.5 WAR pushes him 6 spots up the list. Strikeouts I guess hes a Kluborg now. Moreover, since Gurriel rarely whiffs, he ended up making a ton of contact on pitches outside the strike zone. His first chance to test himself will be against Team Japan in pool play, with Japan having one of the deepest pitching staffs in the tournament. Its easy to point to Gurriels 2021 season and identify the 38-year-old as a prime bounce-back candidate. Along with Torra, Boone gave UC Santa Barbara quite the left-handed duo in 2020. Lets not forget that as a DH playing for the White Sox, he only needs to reach 38.8 WAR to get into the Hall. Missouri BaptistMISSOURI 12-1 Score By Periods W: Diamond, Micah(3-0) L: T. Hough (0-1) 5 Missouri BaptistMISSOURI12-2 6 WinnerJamestownJAMESTOW6-2 Missouri BaptistMISSOURI 12-2 5 Final Feb. 25, 2023 6 JamestownJAMESTOW 6-2 Score By Periods W: K. Yackley (1-0) Roster. The core premise of Abreus HoF case is, as stated above: What if Abreu had a crazy peak from 21-27, and 6 of those years came while he couldnt play in the MLB.. Part of the Baseball Almanac Family, Current Through End of 2023 Regular Season. South Korea is typically a strong nation in international baseball competitions, and this years World Baseball Classic team is a favorite to advance out of their pool. The only HOFer I saw that was behind him was Orlando Cepeda. Hajjar is going into his third season in the Michigan program, but after a redshirt season and the 2020 cancellation, he hasnt thrown that many competitive pitches. McCullers stepped into the role of staff ace for Houston in 2021, going 13-5 with a 3.16 ERA, 1.22 WHIP and 185 strikeouts over a career-high 162.1 innings. Jose Abreu is the Cuban from their generation with a real dark-horse HOF case. 12.0. You post again and again, with zero support, and somehow believe youre the bees knees. Context for TKDCs opinions on Abreus HoF chances should include the weeks he spent claiming that Beltrans 400 bombs and 2700 hits meant that no traditional voter would have ever considered him as a viable candidate, even without the scandal. Others would support their assertions by pointing out that Shohei Ohtani has been seeded relatively low in the standings. He was 33 when he joined the Astros. But I do think we should appreciate that theres only one big difference between Abreus 21-25 seasons and Josh Gibsons: So did I. I find the argument about Abreus HOF chances to be interesting though. Also available on the infield is Ji-hwan Oh, who has won the KBO Fielding Bible Award at shortstop in each of the last two seasons. Give him 4-5 more years from age 21-26 & yeah, I can see it..IF he had played in MLB. As it stands now, no way, but, the dicussion is interesting. Show #2-10. He had 24 strikeouts in 20 innings last season, but with a good handle on three offerings, theres potential for that strikeout rate to skyrocket next season. About what Abreu will deserve unless he ages like Barry Bonds. Yet since moving stateside, Gurriel has worn just one uniform, and it still seems strange to think of him wearing any colors other than blue, orange, and white. WebGrover Cleveland Alexander led the National League in strikeouts six times in nine seasons. His command will help his stuff play up, but with a fastball that can touch the mid 90s as its best and a good slider, the stuff is plenty good as it is. Home List of Major League Baseball career strikeouts by batters Hurter missed part of the 2019 season and all of the 2020 season due to injury. You know who does? Baseball San Diego Stats Baseball vs San Diego March 10, 2023 6:30 p.m. Citing a player who peaked from 26-32 is such a hilariously poor response to the premise that Abreu may have come over after his prime that I honestly have to wonder whether you even read the initial comment, haha. The only significant factor that is uncertain in this situation is health. The Disappearance of Hitters In 1929, 80% of all qualified hitters had higher walk rates. Coming off a last-place finish in 2022, Mississippi State is trying to get back to the top of the SEC. In seven years with the Houston Astros, he won a Gold Glove, four American League pennants, and two World Series championships. Also since 1992, Abreu ranks 21st in WAR among first baseman for ages 27-35, just behind Fred McGriff. Id love for the completely unknowable downvoter to explain why they disagree with Dan Szymborkski, and instead think that because answering a question is difficult, we shouldnt try to answer it at all. Major League and Minor League Baseball data provided by Major League Baseball. All rights reserved. Today's pitch is Carlos Rodn's four-seam fastball, a pitch that according to Statcast's Run-Value was tied for the 2nd best fastball in the entire sport. In 2021, Gurriel gave fans hope that he could buck the aging curve. All major league baseball data including pitch type, velocity, batted ball location, Beyond the MLB players and potential future stars, Team Korea has some veteran players rounding out the lineup from the KBO. Between a breakout 2021 campaign and 2022, the journeyman reliever dropped his strong 9.6% walk rate to a miniscule 2.5%, good for best in the league. Its not too late to win your mothers love. Are you still sore because I said that Beltran would be no-doubt, shoe-in, First Ballot HoF if he werent a fucking cheater? Per the Miami Herald, the Marlins made an offer to Gurriel earlier this winter, but the veteran was hesitant to accept. MLB Yes, hes ahead of obvious future Hall of Famer Miguel Cabrera, but the vast majority of elected and future hall of famers do much much better age 32-38 than he has. No longer could his other skills pick up the slack. In your world 31.2 is more than double 21.9. I honestly dont know that anyone, anyone at all, has ever posted so many times without garnering even a small amount of support for any of the posts. Due to a variety of injuries, deGrom has only been able to make 26 starts over the previous two seasons, but when he has pitched, he has been as outstanding as ever, posting a 1.90 ERA. Lee is the best pure hitter in the KBO, with a career batting average of .342 and more career walks than strikeouts. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. Most position players in the league are rated below MLB average by DRS, and some drastically so. LOS ANGELES Sophomore second baseman Duce Gourson went 3-4 with a homer and a pair of RBIs to lead No. Fantasy baseball 2023: The state of starting pitching Be the first one to comment on this story. That would mean Abreu wouldve needed less than 40% of Alberts output to be at the 52 WAR I conjectured without facts (because there are no stats for those years). Stats Baseball vs Rice (Minute Maid Park) March 5, 2023 3 p.m. Tue, Mar 7 6 p.m. Christian Macleod, LHP, Mississippi State. Savino threw just 10.2 innings as a freshman last season, and while he showed flashes of greatness in those innings, his place here is less about what hes proven at the college level already and more about his potential, which has also made him the top college arm in the 2022 draft class. We need your support to make FanGraphs sustainable so you can continue to enjoy all of the stats and tools you've by Handedness, The Disappearance of Hitters Who Walk More Than They Strike Out, Bauer and Cashner: An Object Lesson in Hype. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. Ichiro has a good case as one of the greatest baseball players of all time. Maybe stop whining and start defending your asinine positions? What was the offensive environment? He could take a spot on the bench, displacing David Hensley, but Gurriel would likely prefer more guaranteed playing time and the Astros might prefer to see what Hensley has to offer. I dont know how you do it, haha lol. KANSAS CITY, Mo. Its a relatively small sample, sure, but Lonsway led the country in strikeouts per nine innings last season by punching out 42 hitters in 18 innings of work. Using a similar methodology to my TTO article a few weeks back, I plotted the percent of qualified hitters in each season with BB% greater than their K% (white bars above). Torra quickly established himself as a dominant force after transferring from junior college. He does not have a HOF case at all. WebWalter Johnson set the Major League record for most consecutive seasons (1912 through 1919) leading any league in strikeouts, but Randy Johnson deserves a plug for stringing four consecutive seasons in the American League (1992 through 1995) then four more in the National League (1999 through 2002) four years after he did it in the junior circuit. He requested his release two years into the contract to return to the KBO. LOS ANGELES Sophomore second baseman Duce Gourson went 3-4 with a homer and a pair of RBIs to lead No. Bachman had a nice freshman season in 2019, striking out 75 in 75.2 innings, but in 2020, he started to show an improved ability to dominate by totaling 31 strikeouts in 23.2 innings thanks in large part to a fastball up to 96 mph. His swing currently produces a lot of line drives, which limits his ability to drive balls out of the park, though the raw power he has suggests he could sacrifice some batting average for more power with mechanical changes. We genuinely cant know how the embargo impacted Abreus careerbut Im certainly more inclined to use the Davenport numbers as a proxy than to throw a hissyfit at the suggestion that this hypothetical prime might have exceeded the performance of historically notable late bloomer at the same age. He strikes out a lot, with his strikeout rate sitting between 20% and 25% each of the last few seasons. Jesus Christ, say what you will, your lack of intelligence or wit has not affected your confidence! Dudes improvement in his late 20s is truly incredible. Despite his strong performances in the KBO, there are some storylines worth following with Kang in the WBC. At this point, its unlikely Gurriel will find a team willing to offer him regular at-bats, and he may have to settle for a minor league deal. Full-year historical Major League statistics provided by Pete Palmer and Gary Gillette of Hidden Game Sports. Along with Jeff Zimmerman, he won the 2013 SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis. Even if you mark him down for 20 bWAR in those lost years, hed be sitting on 52 bWAR now. Who will be 2021s strikeout king? Lee is the best pure hitter in the KBO, with a career batting average of .342 and more career walks than strikeouts. Amos Rusie led the National League in strikeouts a total of five times with two different Ahead of a test this weekend at the Frisco Classic, the Bulldogs are starting to build consistency. The first is, Joining Lee in the heart of the lineup will be KT Wiz first baseman, Despite his strong performances in the KBO, there are some storylines worth following with Kang in the WBC. Strikeouts Troy Taormina-USA TODAY Sports. The only way Abreus case even comes close to approaching McGriffs is if you really give him a ton of credit for what he did in Cuba, where he spent most of his ABs against non-MLB quality pitchers. Burnett (2008) and Roger Clemens (1997 and 98), Just for reference, there are 27 post-1947 1B who had at least 40 fWAR through age 32 (which is the early career production Guerriel would have needed to reach 50 career WAR). All Win Expectancy, Leverage Index, Run Expectancy, and Fans Scouting Report data licenced from TangoTiger.com. The Twins, another club linked to the first baseman this offseason, recently came to terms with Donovan Solano. As it stands, he came in second place for the AL MVP and fourth for the AL Cy Young Award. His fastball was up to 96 mph last season, and while the fact that hes 23 years old Will Hurt him from a draft standpoint, that experience can only help in his pursuit to fly up the strikeout leaderboards. Between the injuries Kang struggled to produce at the plate for the first time in his career, posting career lows in many categories in his statline. Batting Average David Fletcher. Likely wouldnt have kept up the pace over 162, 350 BABIP (.327 career) and 32.8 HR/FB% (18.7% career). This list is about half HOFers and the stretch around Gurriel illustrates that he likely would have been a guy who is at least in the conversation. BA Newsletter: Get Analysis, Rankings Delivered To Your Inbox! Alongside Hyun-soo Kim, who fans likely remember from his time in Baltimore, Byung-ho Park is the other position player with MLB experience.
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